Joscha Bach Λ John Vervaeke on Mind, Idealism, Consciousness, and Computation [Theolocution]

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LINKS MENTIONED:

-John Vervaeke's Meaning Crisis series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ

-Joscha Bach's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Plinz

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:26 Behind the scenes conversation

00:05:48 Joscha's opinion of John's work

00:06:52 John's opinion of Joscha's work

00:08:58 Definition of consciousness / sentience / mind / self

00:17:39 Primary qualia vs the "experience" of qualia

00:25:00 Is science compatible with Joscha's model of simulated consciousness?

00:34:55 The solution to Dualism

00:35:52 People mistake their psychedelic trips for idealism

00:40:55 We don't experience the physical world

00:42:30 The problem of skepticism and solipsism 

00:52:11 What is "rationality"?

00:55:17 Mysterianism and Epistemic Boundedness

01:00:38 The boundaries of consciousness (do they exist?)

01:07:08 What is "real"? How do you know? Discussion on ontology

01:22:15 If we're in a simulation, we wouldn't know (Plato's cave)

01:27:25 The gods are personality archetypes

01:29:32 Physics is less real than the Forms

01:43:58 Academia doesn't value dialogue as content

01:57:57 Is "truth" always "good"?

02:01:45 The meaning crisis

02:11:55 What did Joscha and John think 2 years, that they no longer view to be correct?

02:16:17 Consciousness is a "government"

02:21:16 [Donald Hoffman] Is spacetime fundamental? Can there every be a Theory of Everything?

02:30:40 [Sad Face] Chinese room thought experiment of Searle's

02:36:08 Software is a physical law

02:43:45 [Zanthius] Why should a simulation "feel" anything? Meta-consciousness discussion

02:52:43 [Anil Seth] Is consciousness substrate independent?

02:55:31 Curt answers audience questions

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