Ep. 197 - Thomas Kazen "Dirt, Shame, Status: Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible" pt. 1

Guest/Bio:This week I welcome back Dr. Thomas Jay Oord to talk about his recent church trial over his desire to see the Church of the Nazarene move to a position where they're fully LGBTQ+ affirming. We talk about how it took place, whether or not it was a fair trial, and where he goes from here. He also has a new book out, "God After Deconstruction" with Tripp Fuller!  Tom is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He's also a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than thirty books. Academic Influence ranks him amongst the most influential theologians of the 21st century. He's known for his research and writing on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, evil and power, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation.  Guest (Selected) Works: God Can't: How to Believe in God and Love after Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils; Open and Relational Theology: An Introduction to Life-Changing Ideas; Pluriform Love: An Open and Relational Theology of Well-Being; The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence; The Uncontrolling Love of God: An Open and Relational Account of Providence; God After Deconstruction.  Guest Links:www.thomasjayoord.comTwitter: @thomasjayoord Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Enjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found! This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:This week I welcome back Dr. Thomas Kazen for part 2 of our conversation on same-sex sexuality and the bible.Dr. Kazen is professor and research chair of biblical studies at Stockholm School of Theology, University College Stockholm. He has authored numerous books and articles in English and Swedish, including Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity and Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition. Guest (Selected) Works: Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity; Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition; Dirt, Shame, Status: Perspectives on Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible and the Ancient World.Guest Links:https://thomaskazen.se/Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:This week I welcome Dr. Thomas Kazen! Dr. Kazen is professor and research chair of biblical studies at Stockholm School of Theology, University College Stockholm. He has authored numerous books and articles in English and Swedish, including Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity and Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition. Guest (Selected) Works: Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity; Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition; Dirt, Shame, Status: Perspectives on Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible and the Ancient World. Guest Links:https://thomaskazen.se/Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:This week I welcome back Dr. John Dominic Crossan for part 2 of our conversation on Paul. Dr. Crossan is considered one of the foremost New Testament scholars today. He's an Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of the Jesus Seminar, and emeritus professor at DePaul University. His research has focused on the historical Jesus, the theology of non-canonical Gospels, and the application of postmodern hermeneutical approaches to the Bible. Guest (Selected) Works: The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant; The Essential Jesus: Original Sayings and Earliest Images; How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation; esurrecting Easter: How the West Lost and the East Kept the Original Easter Vision; Render unto Caesar: The Struggle over Christ and Culture in the New Testament; Paul the Pharisee: A Vision Beyond the Violence of Civilization.Guest Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johndominic.crossan/Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:This week I welcome back Dr. John Dominic Crossan! Dr. Crossan is considered one of the foremost New Testament scholars today. He's an Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of the Jesus Seminar, and emeritus professor at DePaul University. His research has focused on the historical Jesus, the theology of non-canonical Gospels, and the application of postmodern hermeneutical approaches to the Bible. Guest (Selected) Works: The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant; The Essential Jesus: Original Sayings and Earliest Images; How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation; esurrecting Easter: How the West Lost and the East Kept the Original Easter Vision; Render unto Caesar: The Struggle over Christ and Culture in the New Testament; Paul the Pharisee: A Vision Beyond the Violence of Civilization.Guest Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johndominic.crossan/Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:This week I welcome Adam Elmasri! Adam is an Australian Egyptian free thinker, human rights activist, author, and content creator. He is widely recognized as a strong religious critic whose viewpoints are based on academic studies and as a supporter of the LGBTQ+ and women’s rights in the Middle East. As an author, Adam Elmasri has published two books and numberous articles on various topics, including religion, politics, and human rights. His work has been praised for its insightful and thought-provoking analysis, and he is considered one of the leading voices in his field. In addition to his YouTube channels and writing, Adam Elmasri is also a popular speaker and commentator. He has appeared on numerous media outlets to share his expertise and insights, and he is often invited to speak at conferences, universities and community based events around Australia. Elmasri was born in the late 1970s in Cairo. He grew up in Egypt as an orthodox Coptic Christian. Elmasri actively engaged in religious conversation in his youth by reading about and participating in Muslim discussion groups. He has actively participated in religious debates in his native Egypt and Australia.Elmasri holds two bachelor's degrees. He obtained his first undergraduate degree in Cairo. Later in his thirties, Elmasri enrolled in an Australian University to pursue his bachelor of arts degree in ancient literature, biblical studies, and textual criticism. His academic studies were primarily focused on the new testament of the Judeo-Christian scriptures. Elmasri has also completed a course for suicide prevention with the Salvation Army, earning the title of Gate Keeper.Guest (Selected) Works: Wounded by Faith: A True StoryGuest Links:https://www.adamelmasri.online/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freethinker_adamelmasriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/adam.elmasri.official/X: https://x.com/AdamElmasri_ADTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam_elmasri_officialSpecial Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women’s issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden combines her personal experience growing up in purity culture with her professional expertise in mind-body integration. She now offers her clients and online community strategies for healing their faith and sexuality.Guest (Selected) Works: Recovering From Purity Culture: Dismantle The Myths, Reject Shame-Based Sexuality, And Move Forward In Your FaithGuest Links:https://drcamden.com/Substack: https://drcamden.substack.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drcamdenFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrCamden/Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women’s issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden combines her personal experience growing up in purity culture with her professional expertise in mind-body integration. She now offers her clients and online community strategies for healing their faith and sexuality.Guest (Selected) Works: Recovering From Purity Culture: Dismantle The Myths, Reject Shame-Based Sexuality, And Move Forward In Your FaithGuest Links:https://drcamden.com/Substack: https://drcamden.substack.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drcamdenFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrCamden/Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest/Bio:This week we wrap up our conversation with the incredible Timothy Morton! Tim is a professor and Rita Shea Guffey Chair in English at Rice University. A member of the object-oriented philosophy movement, Morton's work explores the intersection of object-oriented thought and ecological studies. Morton's use of the term 'hyperobjects' was inspired by Björk's 1996 single 'Hyperballad', although the term 'Hyper-objects' (denoting n-dimensional non-local entities) has also been used in computer science since 1967. Morton uses the term to explain objects so massively distributed in time and space as to transcend localization, such as climate change and styrofoam.He has collaborated with Björk, Laurie Anderson, Jennifer Walshe, Hrafnhildur Arnadottir, Sabrina Scott, Adam McKay, Jeff Bridges, Justin Guariglia, Olafur Eliasson, and Pharrell Williams. Morton co-wrote and appears in Living in the Future’s Past, a 2018 film about global warming with Jeff Bridges. He is the author of the libretto for the opera Time Time Time by Jennifer Walshe. Morton has authored numerous books and 250 essays on philosophy, ecology, literature, music, art, architecture, design and food. Morton’s work has been translated into 10 languages. In 2014, Morton gave the Wellek Lectures in Theory.Morton received a B.A. and D.Phil. in English from Magdalen College, Oxford.Their doctoral dissertation, "Re-Imagining the Body: Shelley and the Languages of Diet," studied the representation of diet, temperance, and consumption in the works of Percy Bysshe Shelley. Guest (Selected) Works: Being Ecological (Penguin, 2018), Humankind: Solidarity with Nonhuman People (Verso, 2017), Dark Ecology: For a Logic of Future Coexistence (Columbia, 2016), Nothing: Three Inquiries in Buddhism (Chicago, 2015), Hyperobjects: Philosophy and Ecology after the End of the World (Minnesota, 2013), Realist Magic: Objects, Ontology, Causality (Open Humanities, 2013), The Ecological Thought (Harvard, 2010), Ecology without Nature (Harvard, 2007), and Hell: A Christian EcologyGuest Links:https://ecologywithoutnature.blogspot.com/X: @timmorton2BlueSky: @timmorton2Instagram: @tim303Special Theme Music:Forrest ClayX: @clay_kInstagram: @forrestclaymusicYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusicEnjoy the music?Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John WilliamsonStay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionstsWebsite by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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