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Decoding the Xi-Trump Call: A New Chapter for US-China?

29/11/2025
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Decoding the Xi-Trump Call: A New Chapter for US-China?

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In this highly-requested return to the Silk and Steel Podcast, host Carl Zha is joined by Professor Warwick Powell to dissect the high-stakes phone call between Presidents Xi and Trump. We go beyond the headlines to uncover the real significance of the conversation, including the crucial historical framing of Taiwan as a final piece of post-WWII settlement.


We then dive into Japan's puzzling role in stirring up tensions and explore the profound structural traps holding back the United States. Professor Powell introduces his groundbreaking "thermoeconomics" framework, explaining how energy, finance, and information systems determine the fate of nations.


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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Introduction

01:15 - The Xi-Trump Phone Call: Who Really Called Who?

04:45 - The Bombshell: China Frames Taiwan as a Post-WWII Settlement

09:30 - Japan's Provocation: What Does Tokyo Gain?

16:10 - Japan's Economic Trap: Energy, Food, and a Failing Model

23:45 - Professor Powell's "Thermoeconomics" Framework Explained

29:50 - Why is the US Failing Despite its Advantages?

35:20 - The AI Energy Crisis: Why US Tech is a Drain, Not a Gain

42:10 - The Financial Black Hole: Why Wall Street is Killing Main Street

48:05 - Can America Be Fixed? The Grim Political Reality

54:40 - Where to Find Professor Powell's Work


KEY TAKEAWAYS:


The recent Xi-Trump call was initiated by Washington, not Beijing, contrary to early media reports.


China strategically framed the Taiwan issue within the context of concluding the post-WWII settlement, a significant shift in diplomatic language.


Japan's actions are driven by political muscle memory, a need to curry favor with the US, and internal contradictions, despite harming its own long-term economic interests.


The US is trapped by a declining Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI), a hyper-financialized economy that discourages production, and a gridlocked political system.


China's approach to AI focuses on embedding it in infrastructure to create abundance, while the US approach often leads to energy-intensive and economically unproductive applications.


True reform in the US is unlikely in the short term due to deep-seated vested interests and an institutional structure designed to prevent radical change.


LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED:


Follow Professor Warwick Powell on Substack: https://warwickpowell.substack.com


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