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Ep. 117 - The State of Bars with Chris Black, Michael Roper, and Polly Watts 2021

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Show notes from John Holl: 


"A lot of us had high hopes for 2021 and getting back into normalcy, old routines, and sitting down on familiar barstools. 

 

It didn’t turn out as we’d hoped. 

 

Again, over the course of this past year, I’ve talked with a lot of brewery owners and brewers about how COVID-19 has impacted them and changed the brewing industry, but like we did at this time last year, I want to talk about bars and what the pandemic has done to them. 

 

 

Once again on the show I’m honored to be joined by three of the very best in the country: 

 

Polly Watts of the Avenue Pub in New Orleans, Michael Roper of Hop Leaf in Chicago, and Chris Black of Falling Rock Tap House in Denver. 

 

 

Black, of course, closed the Falling Rock earlier this summer, a huge loss for beer in America. With a few months of hindsight he offers up thoughts on what nearly 25 years in business did to him and how he’ll move forward."

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  • Host: John Holl
  • Guests: Chris Black, Michael Roper, Polly Watts
  • Sponsors:   NZ Hops, Athletic Brewing, and The Beer Edge
  • Tags: Beer, Bars, COVID-19, Chicago, Denver, New Orleans 

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